Yes the same in these. I think these will be a display pair now. I have been looking at pics of them and I think a good clean will make them look acceptable. Besides I'm a bit worried about sending them overseas at the moment. I am praying that this one arrives at some stage. It's on transit and if it arrives be the deal of the centuryI don’t think you can fix corroded spots by itself back to the original titanium finish. You would have to send it off to be refinished. @zwc0442 does a sweet bone plasma which is close but not the same as titanium. I got a nasty corroded sport on the inner left orbital of mine and I wish I could just get that one spot fixed.