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Can anyone confirm if its a fake or a real timberland product

Reexvan

Oakley Beginner
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It came with shoe laces that has plastic at the end. Some stitching is off but the rest is fine. The logos are all okay and the quality is not bad at all.

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Here is the pic of the sole and the inside of the same shoe. That sole I posted my mistake of the other one. The pics of the other one i will upload soon

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What about the pair with a bit of shine. 20570? That one has much better stitching and the leather quality is just amazing. And what are the tell tale signs. If u can educate me on that? :)
 
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