about 200 of the Kenseths were bought by people on O-Review if I recall...a few years ago...it might be a place to look for someI used to have the Emerald, Ice and RB ones but sold them years ago...I know the founder of o-Review has a huge splice collection not for sale though and the Ducati's were real I held a pair with none of the fake characteristics described earlier here...they were never released to the masses though but U can find old pics of drivers/riders with the real thing or at least could a few years ago....O can say what they want now but they did exist