To us, and a select few, but nobody bought OTT, I remember I was at the sunglasses store multiple times a week back then,but they also had the frog skin, considered a classic, but were a copy of classic ray bans from that era. Not bold nor daring, and if put out now by Lux, this forum would no doubt call them unoriginal garbage, that copy mainstream styles. These are daring, maybe I’m out of the loop, but I don’t recall seeing glasses like these around. May not have soul to us or style for that matter, but neither did the plates, or OTT or scars to vast majority of consumers when they launched, and the list goes on and on for what would be low selling models. I would also argue that if Jannard was involved in making these or anything on the list, people would lauded him a hero and the mad scientist and then shave a portrait of him in their pubey hair.Those had originality, daring style and soul.